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title: "TYPO3 Exception 1663617170"
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# TYPO3 Exception 1663617170 {#typo3-exception-1663617170}

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## TYPO3 12.4.19 - 20.08.2024 {#typo3-12-4-19-20-08-2024}

> [!WARNING]
> (1/1) #1663617170 RuntimeException
> Form ViewHelpers are Extbase specific and need an Extbase Request to work

### Installation Overview {#installation-overview}

Upgrade from TYPO3 v11.5 to v12.4

### The Issue {#the-issue}

f:form viewhelpers cannot be used in non-Extbase context anymore:

See [Avoiding f:form in non-Extbase context](https://docs.typo3.org/c/typo3/cms-core/main/en-us/Changelog/12.0/Breaking-98377-FluidStandaloneViewDoesNotCreateAnExtbaseRequestAnymore.html#avoiding-html-f-form-in-non-extbase-context)

### Solution {#solution}

Replace the viewhelpers with plain HTML, write your own viewhelpers or create an Extbase context if needed